Note: the following comments are extracted from two email messages sent to me from Alan Newman regarding my post - “For the Love of Money”. Normally this would simply be a comment to the original article. In this instance however, I feel that the extent of the comments and responses merit a separate post.
Alan: This may seem strange, but I find the links are a bit confusing. As I follow the look here link for more ideas on how to use the compliments, I found a reference ... which claims anyone can easily view the first compliment from you to RMS, but I can not now find a copy of that compliment to view from any of these links! I know this stuff is never easy to construct, but I'm just pointing out weaknesses I am experiencing with it (not as criticism, but more as a bug report).
ZC: Yes, I say right off that, “Anyone (with Internet access) who wants a copy of the worlds very first GNU.hope (as owned by the renowned RMS) can get as good a copy as Mr. Stallman himself has.” The thing to be remembered however, is that this entire document (showMe.html) is essentially a letter from me to RMS (Richard Stallman). In the above I was simply describing how things would be if GNU.hopes existed. My initial email to RMS (Subject: World's first GNU.hope Gesture) included showMe.html and (naturally enough) a gesture. Said gesture was never signed by its recipient (RMS) however, so the world unfortunately remains without a GNU.hope. My gesture, of course, contained a comment, which in this case is (an example of) a complement.
It is probably worth restating here that more than anything else, GNU.hope is at base, a simple system of unforgeable undeniable ownership (everything else stems from that kernel). Further, it is absolutely essential to understand that GNU.hope ownership equally needs the ‘take’ as much as the ‘give’. This requirement is extremely important to unequivocally avoid any obscene absurdities where you find yourself in unilateral possession of your taxes, your duty, etc.
Returning to links for a (completed) GNU.hope; although none exist, other related links follow:
zrl.asc - my public key
1stRMS.eml - 1st email to RMS
show2.html - Intro of idea's ultimate goal
showMe.html - Full details of idea
85E756C6-061200.135EA668 - GNU.hope Gesture
Alan: My most general comment is that I do not find enough incentive to bootstrap the whole concept only in order to reach a place where collective imagination is supposed to figure out how to make it valuable. This is not exactly a catch-22 as much as it is a prerequisite for YOU to use YOUR imagination to make some additional steps in this direction. You need to build further on the idea until it gets over the not-useful-enough-yet state. Of course, I want to help you, and hopefully many like RMS will contribute, but I still see this idea as an idea under development, and not an idea ready for initial launch - where the first responders will kick in ideas.
ZC: The above comment is not only well said, but also indicates an accurate assessment of my (possibly naive) anticipations. Consequently, I will definitely need to consider this input as things progress. Any detailed implementation that fills in all the blanks would however, be more intended as an example of a workable model than a required specification. Anyone would be welcomed to use the completed paradigm as they see fit and it could potentially be enormously successful in it's own right, but it would still not be there to set any kind of formal standard.
Finally, there is the above phrase “... figure out how to make it valuable.” Might not one as well ask, “How do we go about making a friend's support valuable?” GNU.hopes are always about undisputed formalized ownership. In the case of moral support, the very option/ability to formally award someone visible ownership of your regard may well increase its likelihood to occur (in the first place) while also increasing the thought put into your comments. Now whether a clearly owned and personally valued GNU.hope will ever be treasured and bought by another is a very real issue. However, anything embodied in a GNU.hope would experience great exposure along with the ability to be transferred securely at negligible costs (so at the very least we're seeing numerous new possibilities that never existed in the same way before).
Alan: My next most general comment is that I see two major logistic hurdles (in addition to the most general motivation hurdle described in the previous paragraph). First, I know technology can make generating, receiving, viewing compliments, et al, as easy as reaching into a billfold or checkbook for a coin or piece of paper, but the technology infrastructure is still not ready for this. If this were already fully developed motivationally, then there might be the necessary drivers to complete an infrastructure (I'm thinking something as easy and everywhere as cellphone infrastructure), but I am not confident that the natural progression of technology will drive to a sufficient infrastructure for this…
[then from a 2nd email to better insure my understanding] … I was referring not to the complexity or sophistication of effort needed to handle GNU.hopes/gestures, but rather the utter ease needed. The necessity of never having to think about it, but always having it immediately available. Cellphones pretty much meet this criteria today, but computers do not. Billfolds certainly do, and work well for FRNs! What will work as invisibly and perfectly for Hopes? Today, nothing. If the Hopes are not better guided to get to where you want them to go (mediums of value exchange), then the technology needed to support them invisibly and perfectly does not have a chance of becoming a reality. I don't care if the first Hope is a desktop computer if that is equivalent to the original bag phones that started the cellular revolution at over 5 pounds, over $2000 and over a dollar per minute of usage. Even then, the pocket sized, universally usable, dirt cheap cell phones of today were predictable based on the a clear understanding of the big-picture need, and a clear understanding of all the existing [negative] issues with the heavy and expensive and short battery life bag phones of 15 years ago. That is, given the cell phone as an analogy of something highly useful, everywhere, and cheap, and understanding the evolution of that technology, starting with… It would be very useful for you to be able to identify a clearer picture of where Hopes are going to be in the future just as the future of cellphone was easily predictable as soon as the base technologies had been integrated into a complete system. Right now, you have *most* of the core technology identified, and a very fuzzy picture of what this Hope technology is going to displace from current money technology, but there are so many questions remaining. How does the core technologies get realized into something as simple and innocuous as a billfold or cellphone? What will it look like and where will you wear it? Is it something every vendor will need to maintain an access point for that is usable by all consumers with biometric ID? ... OK, you don't need to define it, but I can't even imagine it in a useful way such that it will replace or fully augment my credit card or check book. I don't have a full enough understanding of all the motivations that will be strong enough to drive the evolution of the rest of the technology (beyond the crypto and database features you have so far described) to know what it needs to eventually be. However, just asking these questions to you is helping me get a few inches closer to those same answers. I don't think we have asked all the important questions we need to ask!
Second, the logistics of formulating compliments seems onerous. Certainly not so for something big and important, such as the example of a commitment to purchase a $100 concert ticket, but most certainly too onerous to acquire a beer or a phone call. Obviously, it will take maturation of the system to standardize on simple, and common, and widely accepted compliments that become as comfortable and acceptable as a $5 bill, but I think the path there needs to be better visualized. If you leave it to the collective imagination of all users to get there, then there will be a billion different places which have little chance of becoming any kind of standard. That is, I think the acceptable boundaries or directions leading to whatever end needs to be established up front. Not the precise end goal, but much more than a completely open "lets see where this leads."
ZC: One point that I have obviously failed to make clear is that this vision I am promoting is NOT an issue of technology. It is instead a moral matter. My real problem is not fast and easy accessibility, but breaking through the mental boxes of tradition (to put it kindly). In terms of effecting everyday purchases; the GNU.hope has little to no interest in competing with a billfold, checkbook, coin or any piece of paper. But in terms of thief, loss, or counterfeiting it's a hands down win - there's just ain't no competition.
“Mediums of value exchange” is a well put phrase and is 100% necessary just as converting gold into dollars is handy. But this is not about replacing or even augmenting your credit cards, check books, or FRNs (although that could happen). And the reason there may be a “very fuzzy picture of what this Hope technology is going to displace from current money technology” is because it's not targeted to ‘displace’ anything. What the GNU.hope is really about is creating monetary value in a way and out of things that puts the current systems to shame in various ways. So from this standpoint the GNU-hope is a mew means to create and maintain a store of value in ways that removes one from the wage slave routine. GNU.hope operates in parallel with other systems and only interacts with them when converting one medium for another. Dollar hours and LETs come the closest to citing and accomplishing the basic main objectives that GNU.hope is dedicated to addressing. Finally, the actual motive (not to be confused with the ideal target audience) for developing this idea was not to provide goodly geeks with a novel way to buy their sugar & caffeine, but for the poor in third world countries to be freed of the burdens and limitations of their national currencies. (Whereas the ideal target audience {at least initially} would be found in the free software world).
Now lets turn to the perceived need to “standardize on simple, and common, and widely accepted compliments that become as comfortable and acceptable as a $5 bill”. First, this kind of thing would be more applicable to the “voting” potential as mentioned in showMe.html and NOT to compliments. Standardizing “compliments” (probably better called “recognition”) would be comparable to (and about as desirable as) standardizing poems or novels. Moreover, I'm NOT looking to make way for fast, casual, ‘easy as pie’ commentary (I see no lack of that gas as things currently stand). And while the there would be great advantage in simplifying the process for the sake of the computer skittish (i.e. perhaps 90%+ of the Internet users) it is pretty easy right now for the technical types (especially in contrast to the care one would likely wish to exercise in generating a worthy gesture).
My fascination with compliments/recognition is two fold. First, they are a nice low risk way to start. And if they can be successfully monetized that would really bode well for monetizing hundreds of things that are a hundred times more substantial. Second, sincere recognition would fulfill a gaping “reward need” (both for those like me who feel a need to meaningfully express their gratitude and also those on the other side who could benefit from the appreciation). For those who think dollars are the ultimate way to accomplish this - I respectfully disagree whole heartedly.
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